"Ah but see here it's as real as you and me, Charles." And yet not at the same time. "The more you think about it being imaginary the more the dreamworld will fall apart around us." Which means if it starts falling apart it's on Charles not Arthur.
"I don't either but I've had it happen before. Come with me, Charles."
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"I don't either but I've had it happen before. Come with me, Charles."